Layered onto all of this is a matter of timing: if you hit a red creature from either of these abilities, you still have to wait until the stack is empty to cast it
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Viscera Seer ( Magic 2011 ) Another cheap to cast but impactful creature, Viscera Seer is a mainstay of Commander decks and has been since the formats inception
